[19:47] nkinkade: are we still requiring email confirmation for wiki edits? (don't want to change, just can't remember) [19:47] nyergler: I'll have to check. I have this vague recollection that we removed that and were going to play it by ear. [19:47] One sec., someones at the door. [19:47] ok [19:47] * jgay has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [19:47] [19:47] * Loaded log from Fri Oct 22 18:31:06 2010 [19:47] [19:47] * Now talking on #cc [19:47] * Topic for #cc is: Creative Commons FAQ http://creativecommons.org/faq/ :: chat logs -> http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/irc/cc/ :: No answer? Email the lists - http://creativecommons.org/discuss :: This channel has nothing to do with credit cards. Sorry scammers. :: paroneayea, i concur that "restart at midnight" is no way to live [19:47] * Topic for #cc set by paroneayea!~user@fsf/member/paroneayea at Mon Jun 28 18:15:56 2010 [19:50] * JED3 (~johndoig@adsl-71-134-244-234.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #cc [19:53] nkinkade: when you get a chance can you double check what we're doing now wrt wiki editing? [20:13] * thisisparker_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:19] * bassel (~bassel@213.130.110.132) has joined #cc [20:24] * bassel has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:26] hi nyergler, thanks, i'd love to know too [20:26] danbri: yup, that's why i'm checking :) [20:26] :) [20:26] esp. curious whether email signups are enough to keep the devils away [20:27] danbri: i can tell you they're not, at least not fully [20:27] oh and a privacy question; if someone comes along to cc wiki and makes an openid-facilitated comment, do you consider that a matter of public record (ie. you could expose the openid as data at some point...) [20:27] not = not enough protection...? or not yet using email much [20:28] not enough protection; i'm thinking that we turned off the email confirmation requirement because [20:28] a) it was causing lots of emails to the effect of, "why can't i edit?" [20:28] oof [20:28] b) it wasn't eliminating spam [20:28] :/ [20:28] so i somehow missed a load of new spam, it was not showing in the default 'recent edits' view [20:29] weird; does that view exclude "minor edits" by default? [20:29] probably i should grep sql dumps for 'viagra' next time, or something low-level like that [20:29] maybe, or they were talk pages perhaps [20:29] we didn't do a lot of forensics beyond rescue/repair [20:29] right [20:30] by we I mean Libby Miller who did the rescuing bit; i'm more trying to figure out how to keep it both open and safe... tough one :/ [20:30] we're saved at the moment by having one volunteer who does a great job watching things [20:30] ah, lucky [20:30] right [20:30] yes, quite [20:30] nkinkade: what's the extension we turned on for Jesse in the CC wiki? [20:31] oh, right, AbuseFilter [20:31] danbri: you might want to check out AbuseFilter; our volunteer requested it, and i think it's helped keep things down quite a bit [20:32] thanks, i'll take a look [20:32] also might be interesting to take that into account for the openid data sharing idea; i'll follow-up on the thread shortly [20:32] i had capcha and blacklist, and felt i was doing enough but it's an arms war... [20:32] thanks, would love to hear your view [20:32] it's not a magic cure-all but if a few sites started, could be an interesting experiment at least